Monday, February 25, 2008

It all comes back to apples...


All concepts are in the mind (concepts are mind-dependent)
All concepts are conceptualized (there are no unthought thoughts)
All concepts are concepts-of-some-x.
All concepts-of-some-x are in the mind.
There can be no unconceptualized concepts-of-some-x.
All concepts of TIME are concepts-of-some-x.
Can there be unconceptualized time?

Perhaps there can be an unconceptualized objective time but it cannot be fully understood.
Can we experience the same perception of time? If we take von Glasersfeld’s point of view about conceptualized apples, there can be no unconceptualized apples or ideas of apples (or any other object for that matter). Therefore, objective time can only be spoken about through our individual (or sometimes conceptual) perceptions, senses, and experiences. This issue is even more complicated because time itself is not visual so we can’t paint a common picture of what an objective time might look like. We can illustrate its affects and changes on our lives or objects, but that brings us right back to perceptions, senses, and experiences of these affects and changes which makes all possible descriptions of time inevitably subjective. Just as we can’t all perceive the same apple, we can’t perceive the same objective time because our perceptions are ultimately subjectively based upon experience.

2 comments:

David K. Braden-Johnson said...

That is, if von Glasersfeld's reasoning about unconceptualized apples is right!

Samantha Chase said...

True. To take such a view on time, we'd be assuming that von G's reasoning about unconceptualized apples (or concepts/objects) in general is "right". Of course, all theories must be based on assumptions of the validity of other theories, ideas, and concepts, otherwise these ideas would derive from nothing (which, according to von Glasersfeld, is impossible since there cannot be unconceptualized anything, including concepts).